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Arrived at the Railway Technical Centre (RTC), Derby on 23rd July 1969 from Carlisle. Although based at the RTC it would appear that it was often to be found at Wilmslow, where it is understood the RTC had an outstation, or at Longsight Depot, Manchester. Test trains appear to have regularly run between Manchester and Crewe using this locomotive and either Test Coach 'Hermes' (RDB975081) or Test Coach 'Mentor' (ADB975091) which was fitted with a pantograph. It is reported to have been taken out of service at Derby in October 1971 with a siezed turbo-charger. However, the submission of a sighting of it at Longsight two months later suggests it returned to service. Railway Magazine (p.280 5/72) reports that it arrived at the GEC Works at Stafford on 22nd/23rd February along with D8545 & D8567 from Polmadie for use as emergency generators. The Railway Observer (p.172 5/72)reports the trio passing through Stoke-on-Trent on 10th March destined for Cockshute depot. The report does not make it clear whether all three were towed by another locomotive or whether D8512 towed the other two. It would appear to have then moved to Longsight Depot where it was joined by its replacement D8598. Clearly it was taken out of service during the first half of 1972 but a more accurate date has yet to be established. During late July/early August 1972 it was moved to Glasgow Works for scrapping. Sightings which would confirm its movements at this time would be particularly useful. D8598 arrived at the RTC as a replacement in the Spring of 1972.

Please submit any sightings you may have made of D8512 from the Summer of 1969 until the Summer of 1972 to Peter Hall. Those of it working in the Crewe and Manchester areas will be of particular interest.

Sightings for D8512

Loco Location Date Seen by
D8512 Clay Cross 23/07/1969 Brian Cuttell
D8512 Derby 10/08/1969 Brian Cuttell
D8512 Derby RTC 05/10/1969 Bob Stone
D8512 Derby RTC 11/04/1970 Stewart Hookins
D8512 Derby 10/05/1970 Brian Cuttell
D8512 Derby RTC 13/06/1970 Robert Mullins
D8512 Cockshute Depot 03/07/1970 p.529 9/70 RM
D8512 Longsight Depot 20/07/1970 p295 09/70 RO
D8512 Longsight Depot 03/08/1970 Tom Bartlett
D8512 Longsight Depot 21/10/1970 p.16 01/71 RO
D8512 Longsight Depot 22/11/1970 Robert Mullins
D8512 Derby RTC 23/05/1971 p.272 8/71 RO
D8512 Wilmslow (+Test Coach) 12/06/1971 p.272 8/71 RO
D8512 Longsight Depot 17/08/1971 Guy Tritton
D8512 Birmingham New Street 26/08/1971 p.625 11/71 RM
D8512 Derby curve 06/10/1971 Peter Crawley
D8512 Tollerton (Old Dalby) 14/10/1971 Jack Hooke
D8512 Derby RTC 16/10/1971 Phil Bell
D8512 Derby Depot 17/10/1971 p.413 12/71 RO
D8512 Longsight Depot 29/12/1971 Tom Bartlett
D8512 Longsight Depot 30/01/1972 Edward Irvine 8441
D8512 Longsight Depot (+D8598) 00/04/1972 Mark Bartlet
D8512 Longsight Depot (+D8598) 03/06/1972 p.443 8/72 RM
D8512 Longsight Depot (+D8598) 05/07/1972 p.320 9/72 RO
D8512 St. Rollox Works, Glasgow 12/08/1972 p.365 10/72 RO
D8512 St. Rollox Works, Glasgow 24/08/1972 Guy Tritton
D8512 St. Rollox Works, Glasgow 14/10/1972 p.452 12/72 RO
D8512 St. Rollox Works, Glasgow 21/10/1972 Paul Green


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