LNER/BR Buffet Cars
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Grouping Design Passenger Carrying Carriages -1970's Survivors Disposals
The 1972 edition of 'The Coaching Stock of British Railways' listed ten Gresley design and both of the Thompson design Buffet Cars as still being in use. Amazingly, with the exception of one of the Thompson Cars, all have survived. In addition to the ten Gresley design a further seventeen are listed which were built to the same diagrams but had been condemned before 1972.
LNER Thompson design Buffet Car 1706, now restored, is pictured at Carrog on the Llangollen Railway Ivor Bufton
LNER Gresley design Buffet Car 9131, now restored with original identity of 643, is pictured at Bridgnorth on the Severn Valley Railway Ivor Bufton
| Built: 1948 | Order number: 1197 | Diagram: 352 | Total: 2 |
Thompson design
| Number | Withdrawn | Disposal |
| 1705 | 1978/79 | Transferred to Departmental Stock as Civil Engineers Staff Coach DB975881. Mayer Newman, Snailwell, Cambridgeshire, cut 1/89. |
| 1706 | 1978/79 | Transferred to Departmental Stock as Civil Engineers Staff Coach DB975882. Preserved at Steamtown Railway Centre, Carnforth, then to Llangollen Railway 1985. |
LNER Gresley design Buffet Car 9128 in BR service at Stratford on 4th October 1970 Keith Gunner
LNER Gresley design Buffet Car 9128, now restored with original identity of 51769, is pictured at Holt on the North Norfolk Railway Ivor Bufton
| Built: 1935 | Order number: 596 | Diagram: 167 | Total: 4 |
Gresley Design.
| Number | Withdrawn | Disposal |
| 9111 | pre1968 | Originally 21608. Disposed of from Old Oak Common p13/67 |
| 9112 | pre1968 | Originally 21609. Disposed of from Old Oak Common p11/67 |
| 9113 | pre1968 | Originally 21610. Disposed of from Old Oak Common p11/67 |
| 9114 | pre1969 | Originally 21611. Disposed of from Old Oak Common p10/68 |
| Built: 1936 | Order number: 702 | Diagram: 167 | Total: 4 |
Gresley Design
| Number | Withdrawn | Disposal |
| 9115 | 1976/77 | Originally 24079. Preserved by Steam in Hereford at Bulmers Railway Centre, Hereford. Moved to Llangollen Railway, arrived 22/6/93, then to Mangapps Farm Railway Museum, then to Rowler Manor, Croughton, Northamptonshire. |
| 9116 | pre1972 | Originally 24080. Transferred to Departmental Stock as Staff Changing Room DE321069 based at Perth, then to Internal User Stock as Staff Changing Room 096055 at Perth Carriage Sidings. Preserved at Great Central Railway, arrived 1995. |
| 9117 | 1968 | Originally 24081. Despatched to G. Cohen, Morriston, Swansea 20/12/69. |
| 9118 | 1969 | Originally 24082. Preserved at Buckinghamshire Railway Centre, Quainton Road, arrived 23/9/70. Moved to East Anglian Railway Museum 1977. Moved to Eastern Counties Railway C&W Works, Ovington, then to Epping & Ongar Railway. |
| Built: 1937 | Order number: 761 | Diagram: 167 | Total: 16 |
Gresley Design
| Number | Withdrawn | Disposal |
| 9119 | 1968 | Originally 24275. Recorded as disposed of from Southern Region 6/70 as an on site disposal at Selhurst. It was observed at Micheldever on 22nd March 1970 reduced to underframe. It is presumed that the bodywork was removed either at Micheldever, Selhurst or elsewhere and that the underframe was either scrapped on site at Micheldever or moved elsewhere, possibly Selhurst, for scrapping. Any further information would be welcomed. |
| 9121 | pre1972 | Originally 24277. Bird Group, Bridgend 5/68 |
| 9122 | 1972/73 | Originally 24278. Preserved at Bulmers Railway Centre, Hereford. Moved to East Anglian Railway Museum, then to Great Central Railway 1981. |
| 9123 | 1972/73 | Originally 24279. Preserved at Tyseley Locomotive Works. Moved to Rushden Station Museum, Northamptonshire. |
| 9124 | 1973 | Originally 24280. Preserved at Great Central Railway, arrived c11/73. |
| 9125 | pre1972 | Originally 24281. Bird Group, Long Marston, Worcestershire arrived 15/1/68 |
| 9126 | pre1972 | Originally 32372. |
| 9127 | pre1972 | Originally 43138. Bird Group, Risca 3/5/68 |
| 9128 | 1976/77 | Originally 51769. Preserved by North Norfolk Railway, and moved to Victoria Coal Yard, Norwich, Norfolk 11/77, moved to North Norfolk Railway 12/79. |
| 9129 | 1972/73 | Originally 641. Preserved at Dart Valley Railway, Buckfastleigh 1/74. Moved to North Yorkshire Moors Railway 9/83. |
| 9130 | pre1972 | Originally 642. Transferred to Departmental Stock as Painters Staff Coach DE321140 based at Penistone, renumbered ADB975079. Used as donor vehicle by Venice-Simplon Orient Express at Steamtown Railway Centre, Carnforth. Broken up on site 1983. |
| 9131 | 1976/77 | Originally 643. Preserved at Severn Valley Railway. |
| 9132 | 1976/77 | Originally 644. Preserved by Scottish Railway Preservation Society at Falkirk Goods Shed. Moved to Bo'ness & Kinneil Railway. |
| 9133 | pre1972 | Originally 648. Transferred to Departmental Stock as DE321087. |
| 9134 | 1968 | Originally 649. Preserved at North Yorkshire Moors Railway, arrived 8/1969. |
| 9135 | 1976/77 | Originally 650. Preserved at National Railway Museum, York. |
| Built: 1939 | Order number: 784 | Diagram: 275 | Total: 2 |
Gresley Design
| Number | Withdrawn | Disposal |
| 9195 | 1972/73 | Originally 24287. Preserved at Steamtown Railway Centre, Carnforth, Lancashire. Moved to Stainmore Railway, Kirkby Stephen East. |
| 9196 | pre1972 | Originally 24288. |
| Built: 1937 | Order number: 761 | Diagram: 167 | Total: 1 |
Gresley Design
Not numbered in the 1943 series but if so would have been 9120
| Number | Withdrawn | Disposal |
| 24276 | pre1972 | xxxx |
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