LMSR/BR Period III Sleeping Cars

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Grouping Design Passenger Carrying Carriages -1970's Survivors Disposals

The 1972 edition of 'The Coaching Stock of British Railways' listed twenty-nine of the post-war LMSR Period III Sleeping Cars in stock. A total of fifty, twenty-five of each class had been built. The remaining First Class Cars were taken out of use soon after whilst a number of the Second Class Cars continued to be used for several more years. All fifty cars built are listed.

SLEEPER FIRST

Built: 1951 Lot number: 1570 Diagram: 2166 Total: 5

Six-wheel bogies

Number Withdrawn Disposal
378 1971 Transferred to Departmental Stock as Civil Engineers Construction Department Dormitory Coach DB975181. Preserved by North Yorkshire Moors Railway, arrived 12/79. Moved to Churnet Valley Railway 2/01, then to Pontypool & Blaenavon Railway 9/06.
379 1971 Transferred to Departmental Stock as Civil Engineers Construction Department Dormitory Coach DB975182. Preserved at East Anglian Railway Museum 12/79. Moved to Bere Ferrers Station Museum 09/00.
380 1971 Transferred to Departmental Stock as Civil Engineers Construction Department Dormitory Coach DB975183. Preserved at Great Central Railway 12/82. Moved to the Old Railway Station, Hawsker, near Whitby, North Yorkshire, then to the Lincolnshire Wolds Railway 6/06.
381 1971 Transferred to Departmental Stock as Civil Engineers Construction Department Dormitory Coach DB975184. Preserved at Mid Hants Railway 12/83. Disposed of to Knights Rail Services, Eastleigh Works for asbestos removal and scrapping 3/10, cut 4/10.
382 1971 J. MacWiliam, Shettleston, Glasgow p6/72.
Built: 1951-1952 Lot number: 1584 Diagram: 2166 Total: 20

Six wheel bogies

Number Withdrawn Disposal
383 1971 Transferred to Departmental Stock as Civil Engineers Department Dormitory Coach DB975185. A. King & Sons, Snailwell, Cambridgeshire arrived 7/7/75, cut 8/75.
384 1971 Transferred to Departmental Stock as Civil Engineers Department Dormitory Coach DB975187. G. Cohen, Morriston, Swansea, cut 7/74.
385 1971 Transferred to Departmental Stock as Civil Engineers Department Dormitory Coach DB975186. A. King & Sons, Snailwell, Cambridgeshire arrive 7/7/75, cut 8/75.
386 1971 Despatched from Wolverton Works to Armytage & Sons, Sheepbridge, Chesterfield, Derbyshire 9/8/72, arrived 17/8/72.
387 1973 Dispatched from Old Oak Common to T. W. Ward, Beighton, Sheffield, South Yorkshire 22/02/73.
388 1972 Dispatched from Old Oak Common to Morriston, Swansea 12/72 Did it then go into the Bird Group or G. Cohen yard for scrapping?
389 1971 Intended to be converted to Civil Engineers Department Dormitory Coach DB975189 but conversion cancelled. Dispatched from Wolverton Works to G. Cohen, Cransley, Kettering, Northamptonshire 30/10/73 arriving 2/11/73, cut 1974.
390 1973 Dispatched from Old Oak Common to T. W. Ward, Beighton, Sheffield, South Yorkshire 22/2/73.
391 1971 Intended to be converted to Civil Engineers Department Dormitory Coach DB975190 but conversion cancelled. Despatched from Wolverton Works to G. Cohen, Cransley, Kettering, Northamptonshire 30/10/73, arrived 2/11/73, cut 1974.
392 1971 Despatched from Wolverton Works to Armytage & Sons, Sheepbridge, Chesterfield, Derbyshire 9/8/72, arrived 17/8/72.
393 1971 Despatched from Wolverton Works to Armytage & Sons, Sheepbridge, Chesterfield, Derbyshire 24/8/72, arrived 27/9/72.
394 1972 Preserved at the Strathspey Railway. Moved to Ecclesbourne Valley Railway 2014.
395 1971 Preserved at Steamtown Railway Centre / West Coast Railway Company, Carnforth, Lancashire.
396 1971 Despatched from Wolverton Works to Armytage & Sons, Sheepbridge, Chesterfield, Derbyshire 9/8/72, arrived 17/8/72.
397 1966 Broken up at / Disposed of from Bletchley p2/67.
398 1971 Transferred to Departmental Stock as Civil Engineers Department Dormitory Coach DB975188. Preserved at Bluebell Railway, arrived 20/8/74.
399 1971 Despatched by road 7/74 from Wolverton Works to W. Goodman, New Bradwell, near Milton Keynes, Buckinghamshire.
400 1972 Disposed of from Willesden to G. Cohen, Cransley, near Kettering, Northamptonshire 16/3/73, arrived 21/3/73.
401 1972 Disposed of from Willesden to G. Cohen, Cransley, near Kettering, Northamptonshire 16/3/73, arrived 21/3/73.
402 1972 Disposed of from Willesden to G. Cohen, Cransley, near Kettering, Northamptonshire 16/3/73, arrived 21/3/73.

 

SLEEPER THIRD

Lot number: 1574 Diagram: 2169 Total: 10
Number Withdrawn Disposal
600 1965 xxxx
601 1976/77 Disposed of from Warrington to A. King & Sons, Snailwell, Cambridgeshire 11/80.
602 1976/77 Transferred to Departmental Stock as Civil Engineers Department Dormitory Coach ADB975578 based at Perth. A. King & Sons, Snailwell, Cambridgeshire, cut 11/81.
603 1974/75 Preserved at Steamtown Railway Centre, Carnforth, Lancashire. Moved to the Bluebell Railway, arriving 22/5/82.
604 1976/77 Transferred to Departmental Stock as Civil Engineers Department Dormitory Coach ADB975579 based at Perth. A. King & Sons, Snailwell, Cambridgeshire, cut 12/82.
605 1967 Disposed of at /from Wolverton Works 6/68
606 1976/77 A. King & Sons, Snailwell, Cambridgeshire 11/81
607 1976/77 Disposed of from Bletchley to Berry, Leicester, Leicestershire 5/80
608 1976/77 Transferred to Departmental Stock as Civil Engineers Department Dormitory Coach DB975585 based at Irvine. A. King, Snailwell, Cambridgeshire, cut 3/82.
609 1976/77 Disposed of from Ely to A. King & Sons, Snailwell, Cambridgeshire 2/80.
 

Built: 1952 Lot number: 1628 Diagram: 2169 Total: 15
Number Withdrawn Disposal
610 1967 Disposed of at /from Wolverton Works 8/68
611 1976/77 Transferred to Departmental Stock as Civil Engineers Department Dormitory Coach DB975580 based at Perth. A. King & Sons, Snailwell, Cambridgeshire, cut 11/81.
612 1974/75 Preserved at Midland Railway Centre, arrived 18/4/77, broken up c2010.
613 1976/77 Transferred to Departmental Stock as Civil Engineers Department Dormitory Coach DB975581. Mayer Newman, Snailwell, Cambridgeshire, cut 4/87.
614 1976/77 Transferred to Departmental Stock as S&T Dormitory Coach ADB975571 based at Bedford. Berry, Leicester, Leicestershire, cut 1/86.
615 1974/75 Preserved at West Somerset Railway. Disposed of to MC Metal Processing, Glasgow, cut 1992.
616 1976/77 Disposed of from Edge Hill, Liverpool c30/4/82 to A. King & Sons, Snailwell, Cambridgeshire, cut 6/82.
617 1976/77 Despatched to Bird Group, Long Marston, Worcestershire but not accepted. Preserved at Dean Forest Railway. Moved to Swindon & Cricklade Railway.  Left Swindon & Cricklade Railway in 2018. Reported that it was intended to move to the Tanat Valley Railway via storage somewhere in the Potteries.  Whilst likely it did spend some time in the Potteries, possibly the Longton yard of Reid Freight Services, it never reached the Tanat Valley Railway and is therefore presumed to have been scrapped.  Disposal to J. Watson Sons, Stafford has been suggested.  If anyone has any further details about the disposal of this coach could they please make contact.
618 1976/77 Transferred to Departmental Stock as Civil Engineers Department Dormitory Coach DB975582 based at Perth. A. King & Sons, Snailwell, Cambridgeshire, cut 11/81.
619 1976/77 Despatched to Bird Group, Long Marston, Worcestershire but not accepted. Despatched from Worcester to A. King & Sons, Snailwell, Cambridgeshire 10/80
620 1976/77 Transferred to Departmental Stock as Civil Engineers Department Dormitory Coach DB975583. Mayer Newman, Snailwell, Cambridgeshire, cut 4/87.
621 1974/75 Preserved at Strathspey Railway. Moved to Ecclesbourne Valley Railway 2014.
622 1974/75 Preserved at Bo'ness & Kinneil Railway, broken up c2006.
623 1974/75 Preserved at Bluebell Railway, arrived 15/6/77.
624 1976/77 Preserved at Didcot Railway Centre. Moved to Victoria Coal Yard, Norwich, Norfolk 16/9/77, then to North Norfolk Railway 12/78, believed to have been broken up on site at Weybourne.

 

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